SEC536: Adversarial AI - Penetration Testing AI Systems


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As AI takes on increasingly sophisticated security tasks, where does that leave human expertise? In this episode, Ciaran and James welcome back President of the SANS Technology Institute and Founder of Counter Hack, Ed Skoudis. As a leading cyber educator, Ed shares his insights on the aftermath of the Claude Mythos preview and what this means for humans in cybersecurity; from how practitioners today are leveraging AI, to why humans need to remain at the helm, and how we can embrace AI tools while preserving human dignity.
Ed’s work across penetration testing and cybersecurity education
A look at how quickly AI capabilities and autonomous agents have developed since Claude Mythos preview.
How people and AI can work together as cyber becomes increasingly automated


Ed Skoudis is President of the SANS Technology Institute, a SANS Fellow, and founder of Counter Hack. As the original author of SEC504 and SEC560, he has shaped modern penetration testing and incident response.
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James has spent the past 20 years of his life chasing cybercriminals around the Internet and, as a self-professed “massive geek”, has been involved in most cyber security disciplines.
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Respected as a world leader among public authorities for cybersecurity, Ciaran Martin is the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre’s (NCSC) founder and former head.
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